David Chartier joined me this week on Systematic to talk about blue icons, dealing with work overload and more. It was a great conversation with someone I’ve known for years but haven’t talked to nearly enough.

Check out the episode at 5by5!

Don’t forget, I’m always interested in hearing from potential guests. Just record a 2-5 minute intro and upload it to the AudioDrop. I might not get back to you immediately, but I’m keeping a growing catalog of interesting people and enjoying having them on Systematic regularly!