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I hosted a chat with Pinbook developer Collin Donnell for Systematic #41. It was a great conversation, despite my “condition.” (I had an engagement directly before the podcast which involved some imbibing).

We talked about the life of developers, coffee and wristwatches, among a host of other topics. After the conversation I’m almost tempted to start wearing a watch again. I think I’ll get one of those Casio calculator watches, though. They took mine away in third grade because I always thought “why memorize multiplication tables when there are tools to do this for us?”

Thanks to Collin for joining me this week!