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I had a great conversation with Jose de Pierola on Systematic this week. He’s a writer these days, but he began working in tech back in the 80s, followed by a period of studying the humanities and eschewing technology, and finally incorporating tech into his workflow in intrugiung and exciting ways.

Thanks to Jose for taking the time to share his history and thoughts on technology. Check out the episode at 5by5!