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I got the chance to talk to Gil Hova, a programmer-cum-board game designer. We dive into the psychology of board games and board game design. It was enlightening for me, and brought up a lot of concepts I hadn’t thought about before.

Thanks to Gil for being a great guest. Check out the episode at 5by5.